What's wrong with feminism?

[Abou Diaby]

Jegern, I thought you were done debating us?

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by Abou Diaby

You're still not a white American. You're the son of an immigrant, therefore not welcome by the purity mongers. They don't care if your parents followed the law and worked their asses off. To them you're just a brown piece of shit not fit to breathe the same air as them. These are the people you're standing for, remember that.

I don’t side with those anti-immigration faggots. Those right wing Christian zealots are just as worse as you naïve socialists who spent your college years brainwashed by some leftist professor. Multiculturalism and immigration are two different ball games. Multiculturalism is when you leftists appease immigrants who refuse to assimilate to the host culture. In Europe it’s the Muslims who try to shove their religion down everyone’s throats.

Sharia law is just a red herring. Jews and other religious groups have courts which solve civil matters among followers. They deal in stuff like dowries, social disputes and things like that. However, these courts have no more bearing on the law than Judge Judy does. In other words, there's nothing these Muslims can do to supercede the constitution in these countries since they have it clear that the government and religion are to be separate. So if a Muslim guy stones his daughter to death, he's getting his ass thrown in jail. In fact, this is how they do it in Turkey, which is a Muslim country where the part in power is Muslim conservative. The worst they've done is allow hijabs to be worn in public schools. And even then the Turks went crazy about it because it was a law put in place by Ataturk.

The 85 sharia courts that are operating in Britain reflect the mentally ill laws of Saudi Arabia. There's a country that's been funding the spread of Islamic extremism across the west, and where women enjoy a status that's between humans and livestock, and apparently the feminists are all quiet about it.
The courts show that the politicians in Britain are all sucking up to Saudi money and it also turns out to be a vote whoring strategy by the Labor party, which I believe is Britain's socialist pinhead collective. UK feminists consider Sharia courts to be a sham.

Sharia's civil code considers a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's. Men can simply divorce their wives by repudiation, whereas a women must give justifications, which are near impossible to prove. Are you listening feminists? Often these women are pressured by their friends and families into settling disputes in these courts where the decisions are incompatible with British law. Refusal may cause threats, intimidation or isolation. But hey, atleast they aren't chopping hands off.

I don't know why you guys use Sweden as an example of what's wrong with Muslim immigrants. I've been to Malmo and Stockholm a bunch of times and all I've noticed is that the Muslim youth speak Swedish and hang out with kids outside of their religion. They're definitely not radicalized. Save for a small minority of religious idiots, most Muslims in Sweden have integrated quite nicely. Please take a trip to Europe and see for yourself. Go to Amsterdam, Paris, Copenhagen or Berlin and you'll notice that the Muslims there are just working and trying to get ahead just like anyone else.

Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. It’s been like that ever since Muslims have been immigrating there in large numbers. You didn’t see anything happen the same way a tourist won’t see a beating or mugging while strolling down the streets of Detroit for several days.

Hey, never mind statistics and what reputable groups like the UN says, let's listen to a leaked cable which clearly states that the report contains nothing but anecdotal evidence. Good work there, dude.



At least they get in a room. Want surgery in the states? Bring cash or get left in a hallway until you die. Are you having a heart attack and have no cash? I'll get you stable, but throw your ass out as quickly as possible in order to get a paying customer in that bed. Like your report, I'm working off anecdotal evidence as well. I worked in a hospital while I was going to school.

Asshole, the UN gets it’s statistics from the Cuban government. And those are the last people you would rely on for actual statistics. Ironically the distrust of the US government from you left wing motherfuckers will always take a backseat when it comes to dealing with statistics that come from Cuba and Castro’s band of gullible shitheads. In this case I would rather trust a leaked cable. This is the second time that I say this but apparently you don’t read.

Don’t bullshit me by claiming that Cuban healthcare is superior to ours. Cuban healthcare is still a country mile away from western standards. For fuck’s sake, even Cuban government officials go outside of Cuba for medical treatment. Vice Minister of Health Abelardo Ramirez went to France for gastric cancer surgery. The neurosurgeon who is the chief of CIMEQ Hospital (reportedly one of the best in Cuba) went to England for eye surgery and returns periodically for checkups. Castro had a Spanish doctor and equipment brought in during his health crisis in 2006.

If you ever got cancer in the ass for riding Castro’s cock, the last thing you would do is fly to Cuba for medical treatment. You’re probably too much of a pussy to get treatment from any country other than the US which is backed by the economic system that you whine and complain about on a daily basis like a little bitch. Don’t kid yourself.

[Icarus]

Hold it. Look at any Education index and you'll find that Cuba is one of the best at educating it's youth in the western hemisphere. Don't forget, they have a ninety nine percent literacy rate which is even better than the literacy rate over here.

Who the fuck cares if their literacy rate is 99%? All this talk and them bragging about a perfect literacy rate because that’s the only way they can redeem themselves from using a mentally ill economic system to run a country.. Which is pretty fucking useless .These people have no incentive to move up the social ladder because the middle class is non existant in Cuba. These “literate” Cubans that are running around might as well not go to school at all and they’ll earn the same amount of money as their peers. The "semi literate" American as you might say is better off financially and their standard of living is way superior than his Cuban counterparts. "Oh look, our citizens may be dirt poor and some get executed every now and then for opposing our government, but at least we have a 99% literacy rate!!"

Guevara fought against the Cuban army. He didn't kill civilians in order to provoke terror. The people who were killed after the revolution were people who were their enemies. Before you call that great man a terrorist make sure you know what the word means.

Che Guevara was a scumbag you stupid motherfucker. He banned music, books , ordered the deaths of Homosexuals in Cuba, and was racist towards blacks. Guevara carried out the executions of hundreds of Batista officials without any trials. And what about the Cuban soldiers? Their lives don’t count? They don’t have families? They didn’t have to die. They paid the ultimate price because some naïve motherfucker wanted to “liberate” Cuba by implementing socialist bullshit.

Fidel Castro’s Cuba is 100x worse than Batista’s. That’s fucking right. The standard of living today is 1% of what it was in 1955. Che Guevara is a murderer, and that puts him under the same category as the Norwegian killer. Freedom fighter? Yeah right. Cubans are oppressed, that why they risk their lives building makeshift boats trying to get to Florida. You call that freedom?

I agree with you. But the same hatred that drove him to do that is what's coursing through Jegern's mind. So much so that he's tried to make all kinds of apologies for him. If he hates muslims because they have the potential to be terrorists, then he should look at himself first, since he believes in everything that Breivik does.

You believe in everything that Che Guevara does.

[Icarus]

Abou you're a fucking pussy.

[jamie99]

Originally Posted by Icarus

Abou you're a fucking pussy.

You lost the argument. Now shut up.

[twothreeoh]

Originally Posted by jamie99

You lost the argument. Now shut up.

lol

Aw, Icarus wants someone to play with him.

[jamie99]

Oh just looking back at this thread makes me smile. Annihilation.

Jurgen has gone quite. Maybe that's why Psychoo is so irritant lately. They were playmates.

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by jamie99

You lost the argument. Now shut up.

No faggot, you lost the argument. Every country that has subscribed to the naive socialist model (Cuba, the Soviet Union, etc) has failed. Now scram.

[jamie99]

Originally Posted by Icarus

No faggot, you lost the argument. Every country that has subscribed to the naive socialist model (Cuba, the Soviet Union, etc) has failed. Now scram.

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by jamie99

Jamie99's facial expression after jerking off to Che Guevara pictures.

[twothreeoh]

Originally Posted by jamie99

Oh just looking back at this thread makes me smile. Annihilation.

Jurgen has gone quite. Maybe that's why Psychoo is so irritant lately. They were playmates.

Just ignore Icarus. He's lazy, confused, and ignorant.

I at least grudgingly respect the consistency of jegern's views, although I despise the views themselves.

jegern shut up when I pointed out that it was fruitless to argue with Americans (and an Australian, in your case) given that he lives in a democratic society. If he cares about Norway's future he should be engaging Norwegians. He's too much of a wimp to participate in politics in his own country because he knows he'd get his ass kicked. His views are repulsive to just about everyone these days.

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by twothreeoh

Just ignore Icarus. He's lazy, confused, and ignorant.

I at least grudgingly respect the consistency of jegern's views, although I despise the views themselves.

jegern shut up when I pointed out that it was fruitless to argue with Americans (and an Australian, in your case) given that he lives in a democratic society. If he cares about Norway's future he should be engaging Norwegians. He's too much of a wimp to participate in politics in his own country because he knows he'd get his ass kicked. His views are repulsive to just about everyone these days.

If you're so "enlightened" then why don't you pack your bags and move to Cuba?

[jamie99]

Originally Posted by twothreeoh

Just ignore Icarus. He's lazy, confused, and ignorant.

I at least grudgingly respect the consistency of jegern's views, although I despise the views themselves.

jegern shut up when I pointed out that it was fruitless to argue with Americans (and an Australian, in your case) given that he lives in a democratic society. If he cares about Norway's future he should be engaging Norwegians. He's too much of a wimp to participate in politics in his own country because he knows he'd get his ass kicked. His views are repulsive to just about everyone these days.

Jurgen is just a dishonest fear merchant. He has nothing original to say. If you notice he was just relaying scripture from his favorite hate sites. The only thing he had going for him was that he appeared to have a congruent argument, which is the least you can say for Icarus. However his still fails because as with most who hold similar views he just scooped off the top and tried to forget about the details. No respect. Don't know why Abou Diaby bothered , but it was fun to watch.

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by jamie99

Jurgen is just a dishonest fear merchant. He has nothing original to say. If you notice he was just relaying scripture from his favorite hate sites. The only thing he had going for him was that he appeared to have a congruent argument, which is the least you can say for Icarus. However his still fails because as with most who hold similar views he just scooped off the top and tried to forget about the details. No respect. Don't know why Abou Diaby bothered , but it was fun to watch.

Abou Diaby kept his mouth shut when I refuted his arguments.

Jamie99 resorts to being a condescending faggot as always.

Same goes for 230.

[twothreeoh]

Abou just likes arguing. He said so once. He's good at it.

I'm interested in hate groups. It's my main interest, actually, pua is just a secondary one. Jegern is pretty soft by hate group standards.

Icarus has zero grasp of the politics, society and history, even those right in his backyard.

There's no point in having a dialogue with either jegern or Icarus but because of my strong interest in the far right, I'm interested in jegern's rationalizations and where they come from.

Icarus just hasn't bothered to learn about the positions he claims he holds. Pure ignorance.

Take his nonsense about traveling to Amsterdam to go to a prostitute, for instance. There are thousands of escorts in his town. If he were serious about going to a prostitute he could arrange one in his hometown.

And what makes prostitution in Holland work is socialized medicine and a much less aggressive form of capitalism-- and the support of feminists, whom he insists are "jealous" of prostiutes. ???

Originally Posted by jamie99

Jurgen is just a dishonest fear merchant. He has nothing original to say. If you notice he was just relaying scripture from his favorite hate sites. The only thing he had going for him was that he appeared to have a congruent argument, which is the least you can say for Icarus. However his still fails because as with most who hold similar views he just scooped off the top and tried to forget about the details. No respect. Don't know why Abou Diaby bothered , but it was fun to watch.

[Jegern]

Icarus, don't waste your time.

They are programmed with the L.E.F.T. auto response: Lie Every Fucking Time. They process information like this:

Input: Facts, statstics, reason.
Output: Lies, distortion, emotional outbursts.

Debating real politics with a leftist is like discussing the meaning of life with a zombie.

Just look at this freakshow:

Jamie: His feminine nature bypasses common sense, politically he is basicly a ladyboy.

Abou: appears to be passionate about politics. He did managed to annoy the great Jegern until I found out he is balding.
That is really where his anger comes from.
Now.. I only have emphaty for him. Unlike muslim gangmembers, I wont kick somebody who is allready down.

230: Koo koo, nuff said.


None of our arguments has been refuted other than in the heads of these leftists. Even Psychoo, a muslim himself, agrees with my view.

[Ssandro]

I can't read all of this, but a couple of points.

Jegern's views on immigration policy are generally the view of the majority of people in europe, aside from norway and sweden. Even a socialist like françois hollande was taking up anti-immigration positions last week. To be honest, half the people I know in real life are more extreme about it than jegern. I guess the funny about jegern is that he's become really fixated about it

I like immigrants a lot, especially the cosmopolitan atmosphere they make when they're successful. But even as the pro-immigration person I think the government needs to be more selective about choosing the suitable people and interviewing them before they come etc

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The only significant opposition to prostitution in europe today is from feminists, and historically this is how it got illegalised in scandinavia and france. In france it's a bit more complicated because there were some other things as well. The marxists took up a position against them after the war. Also the occupation damaged the cultural image of prostitutes and they became seen as less fashionable, as with anything that is touched by germans

Originally Posted by Jegern

Icarus, don't waste your time.

They are programmed with the L.E.F.T. auto response: Lie Every Fucking Time. They process information like this:

Input: Facts, statstics, reason.
Output: Lies, distortion, emotional outbursts.

Debating real politics with a leftist is like discussing the meaning of life with a zombie.

Just look at this freakshow:

Jamie: His feminine nature bypasses common sense, politically he is basicly a ladyboy.

Abou: appears to be passionate about politics. He did managed to annoy the great Jegern until I found out he is balding.
That is really where his anger comes from.
Now.. I only have emphaty for him. Unlike muslim gangmembers, I wont kick somebody who is allready down.

230: Koo koo, nuff said.


None of our arguments has been refuted other than in the heads of these leftists. Even Psychoo, a muslim himself, agrees with my view.

It's not really fair to the leftists to associate them with those guys. Some leftists are thoughtful and have interesting points of view

[twothreeoh]

"Opposition to prostitution" is complicated by the fact that many people oppose prostitution not on moral grounds but because prostitution even in decriminalized zones is controlled by organized crime.

You are conflating a lot of different things, just in this one section, that have nothing to do with one another. Opposition to prostitution in France after the war is very different from say opposition to decriminalized prostitution in continental Europe today. Nationalism was the driving factor in postwar shunning of prostitutes in France.

In contemporary Europe, a person concerned about human trafficking or human rights would oppose prostitution due to the rise of organized crime, whether or not they identify as a feminist.

Think about that the next time you pay for sex.

Feminists do not "oppose" prostitute women. There is a difference that you as well as the rest of the guys here are failing to make.

You have not even a basic grasp on this social problem, which concerns you since you are customer and complicit in the systems of intracontinental trafficking of women.

How you can speak about "immigration" is beyond me. You have no regard for people of different class or ethnic backgrounds than yourself.

Originally Posted by Ssandro

The only significant opposition to prostitution in europe today is from feminists, and historically this is how it got illegalised in scandinavia and france. In france it's a bit more complicated because there were some other things as well. The marxists took up a position against them after the war. Also the occupation damaged the cultural image of prostitutes and they became seen as less fashionable, as with anything that is touched by germans

It's not really fair to the leftists to associate them with those guys. Some leftists are thoughtful and have interesting points of view

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by twothreeoh

is complicated.

Fail

230 always uses this stupid excuse when proof shatters her little bubble of delusion.

[ice cold]

Originally Posted by twothreeoh

"Opposition to prostitution" is complicated by the fact that many people oppose prostitution not on moral grounds but because prostitution even in decriminalized zones is controlled by organized crime.

You are conflating a lot of different things, just in this one section, that have nothing to do with one another. Opposition to prostitution in France after the war is very different from say opposition to decriminalized prostitution in continental Europe today. Nationalism was the driving factor in postwar shunning of prostitutes in France.

In contemporary Europe, a person concerned about human trafficking or human rights would oppose prostitution due to the rise of organized crime, whether or not they identify as a feminist.

Think about that the next time you pay for sex.

Feminists do not "oppose" prostitute women. There is a difference that you as well as the rest of the guys here are failing to make.

You have not even a basic grasp on this social problem, which concerns you since you are customer and complicit in the systems of intracontinental trafficking of women.

How you can speak about "immigration" is beyond me. You have no regard for people of different class or ethnic backgrounds than yourself.

no, the decriminalization of prostitution would actually diminish organized crime, because women would be able seek protection from the police and government, instead of an organized crime syndicate.

also, sex trafficking is just feminist political propaganda; in reality, women love the dollars that come with whoring themselves out, so they have no problem relocating

[stfu]

Wow has this thread grown since a day ago... Well basically we have a bunch of pro-feminist's who clearly don't understand male oppression or how they by virtue of being female cause cause proxy violence or how through out history boys have died for women. right now I am registered for the draft, if the military wanted me I would have to fight, is any single women at risk of becoming drafted? NO! So Shut the F*** Up.

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by stfu

Wow has this thread grown since a day ago... Well basically we have a bunch of pro-feminist's who clearly don't understand male oppression or how they by virtue of being female cause cause proxy violence or how through out history boys have died for women. right now I am registered for the draft, if the military wanted me I would have to fight, is any single women at risk of becoming drafted? NO! So Shut the F*** Up.

+1

[incel4life]

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